tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post9087639798155850235..comments2024-01-30T19:45:36.648+11:00Comments on Lounge of the Lab Lemming: What to do about reviews?C W Mageehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09706100504739548720noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-4860443779539358022007-04-11T08:52:00.000+10:002007-04-11T08:52:00.000+10:00D'oh! I guess you don't want me reviewing your pa...D'oh! I guess you don't want me reviewing your papers - I obviously didn't do a very thorough job of reading your site. (Though, in my defense, I usually read it in my feed reader, where the disclaimer doesn't show up.) Nonetheless, mea culpa.Ron Schotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10020094512548523216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-83302858996074665702007-04-08T14:36:00.000+10:002007-04-08T14:36:00.000+10:00SW:If you are fair to prof. Big Shot, hopefully yo...SW:<BR/>If you are fair to prof. Big Shot, hopefully your willingness to point out his faults will impress everyone else more than they upset prof. B.S.<BR/><BR/>James, it was a non-event. After a week, everyone who was in the lab at the time decided that they had better things to do than reading this blog.Dr. Lemminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283138709890438772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-66649309076398285392007-04-07T16:20:00.000+10:002007-04-07T16:20:00.000+10:00Is there a good story to the outing?Is there a good story to the outing?James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-35170662270914890442007-04-07T14:19:00.000+10:002007-04-07T14:19:00.000+10:00Double blind reviewing is totally untenable. If yo...Double blind reviewing is totally untenable. If you are doing field work in a unique location and/or you've given a talk at a conference, anyone can find you on a google.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the non-blind reviewing proposal from the author perspective, but what about from the perspective of the young reviewer. What if I, as a lowly postdoc or assistant professor, write a critical review of a ScienceWomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17144262447487095454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-21598971832344473542007-04-07T09:16:00.000+10:002007-04-07T09:16:00.000+10:00Ron,My full name is in the disclaimer on the right...Ron,<BR/>My full name is in the disclaimer on the right- anyone who actually comes to the site instead of reading feeds can see it. I got outed 9 months ago- in front of my lab manager by the former director, no less.<BR/><BR/>I use the lemming handle for continuity purposes.C W Mageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706100504739548720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-27357930345971440732007-04-07T08:27:00.000+10:002007-04-07T08:27:00.000+10:00For a bit of cross-pollination, here's are some pr...For a bit of cross-pollination, here's are some pretty thorough <A HREF="http://hunch.net/?cat=21" REL="nofollow">discussions</A> from another field of the review system and its faults.<BR/><BR/>As for being powerless to change the system, well... perhaps it starts with becoming a conference chair and adjusting the system for that conference, and then trying to make your changes catch on...Brethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03262475856836100420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-78145412193252863032007-04-06T23:08:00.000+10:002007-04-06T23:08:00.000+10:00Lemming,A great idea - I'm all for scientists bein...Lemming,<BR/><BR/>A great idea - I'm all for scientists being open and putting their names and reputations behind their work.<BR/><BR/>You must be acutely aware, then, that your own credibility is only indirectly on the line in making the suggestion since you're doing it under a pseudonym. While it certainly doesn't devalue your argument, it's not exactly leading by example.Ron Schotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10020094512548523216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-28314389653651443152007-04-06T22:17:00.000+10:002007-04-06T22:17:00.000+10:00I like the system adopted by several EGU journals ...I like the system adopted by several EGU journals - they publish the original manuscript and the reviews, signed or not. Anyone else outside the nominated reviewers can comment too but I think they do not get the option of anonymity (although if they really wanted to they could presumably make up a sock puppet). This review process stays up on the web whether or not the paper is eventually James Annanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04318741813895533700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-86161458861567412802007-04-06T22:01:00.000+10:002007-04-06T22:01:00.000+10:00Yami, I hear your pain. I set a second email up f...Yami, I hear your pain. I set a second email up for blog stuff, but it turns out I need to use my old one to change any settings or do anything other than post anyway.<BR/><BR/>CJ, gatekeepers are fine as long as they judge science, and not connectivity or factional alliance. But what we little people can do to change their behavoiur is tricky.Dr. Lemminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06283138709890438772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-27904080121692879572007-04-06T18:22:00.000+10:002007-04-06T18:22:00.000+10:00That's a good idea - although as you say, it won't...That's a good idea - although as you say, it won't put much of a crimp in the stride of the gate-keepers.<BR/><BR/>It's also a good idea to make the reviews (and the authors' response) available somehow - it might make people pause a bit before sharpening their hatchets, although their aim is of course to stop publication anyway...Chris Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923865059164569384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20092824.post-4592519587600199532007-04-06T14:52:00.000+10:002007-04-06T14:52:00.000+10:00Yeah, I'd go for that.(And can I just say how much...Yeah, I'd go for that.<BR/><BR/>(And can I just say how much I hate the Blogger/Google login alliance? I have to log out of my calendar and email every time I want to preserve my pseudonymity on someone's blog. Grah. Agh.)Yami McMootshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396829286693323508noreply@blogger.com